"Anon" (tjsielsistneb)
10/02/2013 at 23:42 • Filed to: None
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"Anon" (tjsielsistneb)
10/02/2013 at 23:42 • Filed to: None | 1
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I remember hearing a bit back people justifying the use of prius tires on the FRS. The basic arguement was that because of the perfect weight distribution and the RWD the slippery tires allowed it to drift at even low speeds. So FRS and non sticky tire owners of oppo, what do you think? Is it more fun?
NinetyQ
> Anon
10/02/2013 at 23:44 |
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It depends on your version of fun. If you want to scare your passengers at low-speeds, heck yes. It's easy to kick the back end out on slippery tires.
But by that same measure, they don't have as much grip, and sometimes grip is a good thing to have. If your version of fun is taking corners as fast as possible and not sliding around, then you want stickier tires.
DasWauto
> Anon
10/02/2013 at 23:47 |
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I'm considering throwing some hard-wearing, relatively low grip tires under the e30 for exactly this reason, so for fun, yes, I think so.
offroadkarter
> NinetyQ
10/02/2013 at 23:47 |
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Exactly. Those tires are also the reason why so many people think they are ken block, and tokyo drif their toyobarus into a tree or lamp post.
area man
> Anon
10/02/2013 at 23:51 |
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Fun? Yes. Dangerous? Yes. Do it? Yes.
Battery Tender Unnecessary
> Anon
10/02/2013 at 23:54 |
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It's also about the relative traction of front vs. rear. It's why I tend to cringe when I see people using different tires in the front and back unless it's intentional (not just to save money replacing the worn out rears with a different tires). Heck, even with the same tire front and rear the handling characteristics can change dramatically. Just look at recent articles about how Porsche is recommending replacing the original tires with new Michelin Pilot SuperSports on the Carrera GT when the time comes. Evo recently did an article about how it completely changed the scary, twitchy, on edge natural of the handing into something much more progressive and rewarding. I tend to lean towards getting the best all around tires for your car and then modifying your driving behavior to get the results you want. Mainly because I'd rather spend the 1% of time I do something crazy thinking about how to make the car do that, rather than spend 99% of the time reminding myself the car needs special treatment not to wreck.
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Anon
> Battery Tender Unnecessary
10/03/2013 at 00:02 |
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I suppose this goes double for you since you drive a car with enough torque to pull the earth off it's axis. LOL
Lets Just Drive
> Anon
10/03/2013 at 00:14 |
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There are basically two ways to get a "tail happy" drive.
The first is power and torque. The second is tires.
Because the former is so expensive, people who want cheap thrills opt for the latter.
Speaking of the FRS specifically, I've driven them on the stock rubber and I've driven one on aftermarket rubber (though I can't recall for the life of me what he had on the car...) and what I can tell you is this; just by changing tires you can utterly change the driving feel of the FRS (though, it was a BRZ). Those low-rolling-resistance tires are easy to break loose even with the little power that car makes but once you step up to a wider, more grippy tire it becomes very hard to break the back end loose because now the car just wants to hold that corner for ages. In fact, it's one of the few sports/performance oriented cars currently on the market that you can buy street tires for which will out-preform the car itself.
Decay buys too many beaters
> Anon
10/03/2013 at 00:55 |
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FR-S owner here, yes the low grip is more fun. More dangerous? Sure, but definitely more fun. It is one of the reasons I am so hesitant to upgrade wheels and tires on my ride even though it seems to be everybody else's first mod.
tromoly
> Anon
10/03/2013 at 01:27 |
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It could be because running tires with less lateral grip puts less strain into the suspension, allowing the components to be a touch lighter and giving a "higher" "factor of safety" to the system (quotes 'cause it's not really the case, but close enough).
But, running lower CoF (coefficient of friction) tires means you have less lateral grip available to use. Try going into a corner a touch hot and you'll understeer off the corner, if you don't cook the rears and spin around. For any performance driving on a track a set of "higher" CoF tires is probably a good idea, better to have grip available than find out too late that there isn't any.
I don't own an FRS, this is just paraphrasing stuff from vehicle dynamics.
OtherBarry
> Anon
10/03/2013 at 07:58 |
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Keep decent tires on and learn how to kick the clutch to start wheel spin. More fun than crappy traction at all times anyway.
04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches.
> Anon
10/03/2013 at 10:36 |
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You're doing it wrong.....
If you wanted a drift machine you should've bought an S13/14 or a V8.
Don't get wimpy tires just so you can Oppo some more. It's fun, but it's like being a virgin and getting with a tranny just to say you're no longer a virgin.....there are better ways.
NaturallyAspirated
> Anon
10/03/2013 at 12:33 |
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My Miata was much more fun with sticky tires than with slippy tires. Sure, it was fun to scare people with a low speed drift on the slippy tires, but that was nothing compared to the adrenaline surge of taking a corner at about 3 times the speed you're comfortable with, without so much as a chirp from the tires.
911e46z06
> Anon
10/07/2013 at 02:36 |
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Don't know about low power, but Forgestar is taking forever getting me my new wheels, so the last few weeks I've been driving around my m3 with bald tires. It's been all kinds of fun leaving rubber all over town, but you really miss the grip when you find yourself in the twisties or at a deserted stoplight. I'll take sticky any day.